Subj : What to do with a gia To : Ky Moffet From : Barry Martin Date : Mon Aug 26 2019 10:05:00 Hi Ky! > KM> Yep, found those... and thinking it should have shipped with > KM> Windows ServerSomeyear, but unable to find the Windows Sticker, I > KM> contacted Dell support to ask where they hid it... nope, that one > KM> shipped naked, no OS, but I HAVE ENTERPRISE SUPPORT! > So you get personalized supoort paid for by whomever originally bought > the unit?! Neat!!! KM> Yep, about another 200 days worth, so I'd better get it in gear. :D I really hate it when they rush you like that! > And yes, I sort of figured you had found the information I did, just > sometimes I'll put the search terms in a different sequence or add or > leave out a phrase and find something unique. KM> You never know, especially what with all the stupid custom KM> results. No, Goo-duck, I want the exact thing I searched for, not KM> what you think I wanted!!@*&^@@@##!! There are times when I do misspell/mistype something and Google will offer the right one. There are also times when I try to type what I want, with the plus and minus options, and still get what I didn't want. And sometimes just fun to help someone, like with the Adrian can't be shut off in the previous message (or at least my reading sequence!). ^C is the answer, or at least supposed to be the answer -- now you get to find out why it didn't work. And maybe you knew about www.TheAdrianProject.com, maybe not. > KM> Anyway, once I figured out that if you boot from USB, it thinks > KM> your USB stick is C: and not USB-anything... should be able to > KM> install a fresh OS easily enough. Then the question is... what > KM> work shall it do? What would YOU do with 53 pounds of server? :) > Interesting on the USB Boot. That is one way to do an installation with > 'regular' computers, though I'm still using DVDs. KM> You're supposed to use the embedded management engine, which I KM> haven't entirely figured out yet. I read the fine manual and was KM> not enlightened. I watched a video and began to have a glimmer. KM> Perhaps I'll experiment and hope nothing explodes. One of the KM> SSDs will be used as the OS drive (it has two 2.5" internal drive KM> bays for this very purpose). I'll admit to (maybe too freqently!) want it NOW. The DVD installation just about always seems to work -- there are two computers where the DVD seems to have been software-disconnected and so they have been sitting gathering dust - literally. Used to work, for some reason don't work now, or the last time I tried. Thumbdrive installation probably is no big deal and probably is a little faster, though doesn't give me the flashing LED indicator like a DVD does to say something is happening even though the screen is just sitting there. Never tried a network install. > Now for the "what would I do with 53 pounds of server?". And what was KM> Boat anchor? :) I wonder if that's enough for the current on the Mississippi River? (It's only about a dozen blocks from the house.) > it, 3x 8 TB plus several 420 GB's (you were going to use the latter for > upgrading other computers). So that leaves either three 8 TB units in a > RAID or or 24 TB. I have a couple-pound server in the basement with KM> 24TB straight up. Plus I'll probably hunt down some used SAS KM> (cheaper than used SATA) HDs to fill the vacated bays. Wasn't familar with the term and probably others aren't either so here: SAS SSD vs. SATA SSD A SSD delivers faster data transfer rates than a serial ATA (SATA) SSD. ... SAS drives use a higher signal voltage than SATA drives and can reliably transmit data -- with better overall data integrity end to end -- at twice the speed of SATA drives. https://searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/SAS-SSD-Serial-Attached- SCSI-solid-state-drive OK, may as well go with the super-speed while you're at it! KM> RAID is against my religion. Let me tell you the sordid tale (for KM> the second time today, wtf) of how I lost faith: KM> I was cured of RAID by a friend's experience with a failed KM> array... when RAID loses its marbles, it garbles files in the KM> most creative ways, such as each file contains striped sectors KM> from each HD. And there's no good way to recover data from KM> mangled linux filesystems, other than copy sector-by-sector then KM> extract files from the resulting Single Giant File, based on KM> known filetype headers, and hope the file was not fragmented. And KM> the last intact backup was from =after= RAID went berserk, so was KM> no help. KM> What a mess. I spent six months rebuilding 14,000 irreplaceble KM> JPGs from a vast heap of random data. Got to where I could KM> hand-build JPG headers in my sleep, and ID which image a file KM> fragment belonged to at a glance. (Some were in 3 or 4 pieces, KM> and not in adjacent data chunks.) Good thing I think peering at KM> files with a hex editor is normal. Were only about 60 that I KM> couldn't recover at least part of, thanks to Frhed and JPEGsnoop. "Ytch!" I've got a bunch of JPGs from my first visit to Vienna which somehow became corrupted on the camera (cell phone) memory card -- have been able to recover some and others are still need to be worked on - just hadn't looked around for better/other repair utilities plus wanted a faster computer (like this one which I built in the interim) to hopefully get things done quicker. RAID and JBOD do seem a little 'dangerous'. I will admit to using JBOD with my backup NAS in the basement. So far so good. Know with JBOD if one drive fails essentially all fail, as far as the data component is concerned. > only 5 TB and it is only half full. ...I don't know. If someone > offered, yes, I'd take it too -- same as you, grab now, figure out what > to do with it later. ...Obvious is 'storage', but one person has only > so much data to store. KM> On the scattered PCs I have about 8-10 TB, KM> not counting semi-random duplications, er, I mean backups of KM> disks-in-use. I'll have to allow ballpark as I know I have duplicated duplicates here. Working on combining the various 'storages' here. A lot of duplicate filenames but enough where the filename is the same but the data is different I don't want to just click the automatic overwrite or skip options. Also had an issue like you with all the files got dumped into a common directory, so loss of the subdirectories. I don't want the computer stuff mixed with the car stuff mixed with the house stuff, so that is being separated. > Renting/leasing storage to others is a > consideration, though then that kicks up all sort of business and legal > requirements for you which can be a pain. ....I don't know! KM> Yeah, you get into legal liabilities there. Distributed computing KM> would probably not be worth the power bill (apparently it doesn't KM> use much idle, but can really cook when running full tilt). So KM> I'm thinkin' backup server and maybe occasional media server... It'll look impressive stating you have 18 TB (or whatever) of storage! Just don't display the "free space = 16.2 TB" part!! KM> ...if I ripped all the DVDs, which I should for backup purposes KM> anyway, it'd be... well, there go the rest of those TBs... KM> http://www.the-sandpit.com/misc/dvdlist.htm KM> Who buys all this crap? Worse, who watches all this crap? :) KM> Junk fills the brain cells allotted. :D Well there are some I'd find interesting. If the "Becker DVD" is the one from the TV show I used to watch. Not into Star Wars, though would watch Planet of the Apes. ...Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles??!! ¯ ® ¯ Barry_Martin_3@ ® ¯ @Q.COM ® ¯ ® .... Punny Books: "A Spotless Scalp In 7 Days" By Mikhail Gorbachev --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47 þ wcECHO 4.2 ÷ ILink: The Safe BBS þ Bettendorf, IA --- QScan/PCB v1.20a / 01-0462 * Origin: ILink: CFBBS | cfbbs.no-ip.com | 856-933-7096 (454:1/1) .