Subj : Re: Novell NetWare :)
To   : poindexter FORTRAN
From : acn
Date : Tue Jun 08 2021 18:05:00

Am 03.06.21 schrieb poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 in FSX_RETRO:

Hallo poindexter,

ac>> I never understood why anyone really wants a Windows Server system, and
ac>> I pity everyone who has to work on such systems (me included).
ac>> In the past, NetWare always was the better option and today a
ac>> Linux-based system would be my preferred choice.

pF> Novell's high cost got Microsoft's foot in the door, and just good enough
pF> (but significantly cheaper) gave them an opening.

That's right.

pF> So, given your choice of Netware for file and print services, and a UNIX
pF> environment for IP management, or a couple of NT boxes with GUIs to do it
pF> all, lots of companies took the Microsoft path.

Sadly, that's true.
And when Novell integrated TCP/IP in a better way (NetWare 5), it was too  
late...

pF> Active Directory versus Novell DS was the final killer. With Microsoft
pF> owning most of the client OSes that was a done deal.

Although I don't understand it. If one had used NetWare, GroupWise and  
ZenWorks, the network management was quite similar to a ActiveDirectory  
and GroupPolicy system, even with more features - as far as I remember.

pF> I made a good living setting up Linux environments with mail, groupware
pF> and file/web services for startups back in the early 2000s for people who
pF> couldn't afford "WOEA", but now I think G suite does a better job than
pF> bringing it in-house.

Maybe, but you give away the control over your data (and the data itself).
You are even more dependant on the system, that it is available and that  
no AI system thinks you did something wrong and closes the account.

ac>> My eBay finding of NetWare 4.11 and GroupWise will arrive approx.
ac>> friday and the seller told me that he included some other Novell
ac>> products he is clearing out :)

pF> Please don't make me run a Novell network at my house. Please don't make
pF> me want to run a Novell network at my house...

;-) My package arrived and it looks nice :)
At the moment, I have my NetWare 3.12 VM running and I'm collecting all  
the patches for the 3.x and 4.x versions and will put them in my BBS's  
file base.

Regards,
Anna

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