Subj : Re: Computer Kits
To   : boraxman
From : Jeff
Date : Fri Jan 28 2022 22:22:28

On 29 Jan 2022, boraxman said the following...
 bo>  Je>  bo> To be honest, this sounds utterly awful, dystopic.  I might deci
 bo>  Je>  bo> someone you said is awful, by my own subjective interpretation. 
 bo>  Je>  bo> have changed your views.  Why should I judge you based on belief
 bo>  Je>  bo> longer have?  How can I tell?
 bo>  Je> Ask me.
 bo> But I won't ask.  That is the thing.  If I don't like you, I'll just find
 bo> something you said, and go to your employer.  People DO this.  There are
 bo> teams of activists who will do this.  

Then don't espouse hateful views. It's really not that difficult.

 bo>  Je> Whether one's beliefs are published in a book or presented online for
 bo>  Je> world to read, the expectation that the thoughts and opinions contain
 bo>  Je> therein are private is misplaced.
 bo> Then we should never speak online.

If that's your choice then so be it. Others may feel differently, and may
have nothing to say that they will later be ashamed of.

 bo> Simply put, if everything I say to you, as part of a conversation is
 bo> equivalent to me authoring a book and seeking to get it published, then
 bo> this conversation has to stop now.

Nonsense. There is plenty of stuff that will be seen and disregarded because
there's nothing to it.

 bo> And I will stop talking to you, because I do not want what I say here,
 bo> on a forum, to be considered equivalent to that.

I do not control whether it is equivalent to that or not. What you or I
believe does not change what is.

 bo> Do you see the problem now? 

Nope. Communicate if you wish, or refrain if you wish. There is the
possibility that what you saywill be preserved for possibility, but will
anyone care what we say here and now? Will anything you've said here cost you
future employment? I doubt it.

 bo> We need as a society to understand context.  To understand that a forum
 bo> post is not a book, that a private message is not a forum post, that a
 bo> comment on a BBS is not a published web-page, etc.

Because you say so? The permanence of a medium is separate from what is
communicated via that medium, but does need to be taken into account when
communicating via that medium. That is the context that needs to be
understood.

Simply saying thata forum post is not a book doesn't make it so, and
saying that a private message is not a forumpost does not make it so. These
are expectations that you have superimposed upon the medium in question.
No one is obligated to entertain your expectations.

 bo> You are kind of proving my point.  Casual communication like this now
 bo> has high stakes, which wasn't the case before.

Does it, though? How has the case changed, just over the course of
this conversation? How has this conversation between you and I altered
reality?

Jeff.

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