Subj : Re: computers To : Malvinas From : Mhansel739 Date : Mon Aug 12 2024 04:49:16 MM> On this last piece of your post: MS didn't "establish itself"... they d MM> some kind of shady move with IBM to have their OS pre-installed in OEM MM> computers for a good few years, until it was irreversible. I know ameri MM> folks (coming from "the land of opportunity and the free and brave), se MM> these 'corporate moves' as not so much as "shady", but you gotta give t MM> that's not quite "squeaky clean"... No doubt that MS did some shady stuff to get DOS on the IBM. They have done (have been doing) some shady stuff to stay on top. There is no way they could have done this and come out squeaky clean. I have used MS stuff as long as it has been around, but am not blind to the fact that they are just one more corporation out to make money. I see the crud they pull with their licensing (both desktop/server licenses and their cloud-based offerings). I use it because that is where the tools are that I need for work. And to me, their tools are pretty good. Yup, there are alternatives that work as well, if not better (and cost less). --Matt --- RATSoft/FIDO v09.14.95 [JetMail 1.01] * Origin: STar Fleet HQ - Real Atari! bbs.sfhqbbs.org:5983 (21:3/171.0) .