Subj : Re: what are you dialing in with? To : Nightfox From : Spectre Date : Fri Jun 14 2024 06:46:00 Ni> Did it? I don't remember ever seeing any Apple II clones, or clones of Ni> the Quadra etc.. Apple didn't allow clones until after Steve Jobs was Ni> kicked out of Apple; I remember seeing some Mac clones from Power Ni> Computing, Motorola, and maybe a couple otehrs. Some of them were more Ni> powerful than Apple's Macs at a lower price. But Steve Jobs killed that Ni> when he came back. At one time every man and his dog, and maybe his dog's unknown pet were making Apple II Clones. Taiwan, China, South America some better than others, some with extra features, like Z80 built into the Motherboard. We even had 2 clones here in Australia, Dick Smith CAT which I believe is another pre-existing clone relabled, and a Medfly. I'm a bit rusty on just what Macs there were clones for. The era you're looking for is the Sculley CEO era, when you put a pepsi man in charge of a computer company. He probably tried to hard to be all things to all people. They had to many models, aimed at to many niches, and were making a loss. Jobs to his credit looked at the inventory, and nixed everything that was not core unfortunately including the IIgs, limited the models and drove it back into profit. Spec *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware] --- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval) * Origin: A camel is a horse designed by a committee. (21:3/101) .