Subj : Re: Weird Sun Pricing To : poindexter FORTRAN From : tenser Date : Fri Feb 09 2024 02:28:07 On 05 Feb 2024 at 08:34a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said... pF> I'm tempted to go back to my roots and pick up an old SUN workstation. pF> Always loved the hardware, and their keyboards were top-notch. pF> pF> My desktop SUN for years was a Sparc 2 with a Weitek Power-Up CPU; I pF> think the aftermarket CPU doubled the clock speed. I maxxed out the RAM pF> and had the low-end framebuffer. 19" CRT monitor, a desk breaker. pF> pF> Checking on the web, they're EXPENSIVE! I ran Kerberos servers on a -2 for years; SunOS 4 was nice, but eventually we ditched it and went with OpenBSD. I had something like 3 years of uptime on that box. My desktop workstation for a while was similar: a 1+ with maxed RAM and a big monitor. I liked the type 4 keyboards, but the type 5's were sort of lame. pF> Looking at shoebox Suns like the IPX or LX didn't reveal a lot. pF> pF> Widening my search, Ultra 2s or Ultra 5s are available, and pF> significantly cheaper. They also are much more powerful systems, and I'm pF> pretty sure the 5 takes PCI expansion cards. Yup. The Ultra 5 had PCI and, I think, IDE disks. That was the signal that Sun had lost, for me. I remember a sysadmin friend showing me an Ultra 5 or 4 next to a Pentium machine from IBM: "yup, the Sun is twice as fast, but the PC costs a quarter what the Ultra does." That was it: x86 was going to eat SPARC's lunch, and it did. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .