Subj : Re: Tabletop war and roleplaying games To : Margaerynne From : Commodore Clifford Date : Sat May 06 2023 14:45:50 On 05 May 23 22:54:09 Margaerynne wrote... MM> I wonder if D&D hasn't shifted too far in the social direction, MM> though! There's so much buzz around etiquette, culture, and MM> standards in the D&D community, and it sometimes makes me wonder if MM> we're not pushing out the antisocial geeks who were here first. MM> MM> Granted, I'm about as boring and normal as they come, so I'm MM> definitely part of the problem. MM> MM> I wish I was cool enough to have a weird, off-putting dnd character MM> --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux * Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * MM> Pensacola, FL * (21:2/138) To which Commodore Clifford replies... I think part of it was due to how they pushed game stores to really adopt the in store play. Before, you organized your own group, usually in your own home. If you were playing in the store, it was pretty much the same thing, just in a public building. But when they went to standardizing the experience and opening it to all, now you're essentially creating a situation where you never know who is going to be at the table. Now you need to have all that etiquette, culture, standards and all that. Before, if someone disagreed or was "offended". Well, you don't invite that person back. Now, you're kinda stuck with them. It's actually why I quit going to the weekday gaming sessions at the local store. There was this one guy... The guy who figured out how to do the double wield heavy crossbow that can fire every round, but still points out every little rules mistake that each player makes to the detriment of his own party (even when the DM says "no, it's fine, I'll allow it" he is still arguing and won't stand down until the DM agrees with him). What's worse, he didn't even have transportation... he was being brought by another HS kid who was kinda guilted by the parentals into bringing him. That poor kid was always apologizing for bringing the kid who was ruining everyone. --- RATSoft/FIDO v09.14.95 [JetMail 1.01] * Origin: STar Fleet HQ - Running on real Atari ST Hardware! (21:3/171) .