Subj : Re: Tabletop war and roleplaying games
To   : Arelor
From : hollowone
Date : Tue Apr 25 2023 13:00:26

 Ar> I have not followed 5E's development closely. What I have heard is they
 Ar> didn't do it too badly (since they had a somehow open testing process).
 Ar> Why do you think they were bullshitting people?

It's what Abbub refers to as well. Less about the product, more about WOTC's corporate communication. But they are no unique. Companies are more focused to talk about politics and cutting themselves often from them in the past.

I find it unnecessary in many cases. I find it often ridiculous if games and world of fantasy are involved in debates about racial segregation and social inequalities. it's just damn role playing game, that neither created the problem, nor will solve it.

With all respect to all who may feel victimized by past times in whatever dimension of the same debate.

When I played 1e/2e it was just a hobby and I'd love to keep it that way. Away from any discussion other than commenting it as a toy. Otherwise I find all such zealots no different than those who were fighting with TSR in the 80s accusing it for being evangelists of devil and Antichrists responsible for mental kids hurting themselves playing those games.

We'd been there already and it indeed resolved nothing. Kids continue hurting themselves regardless of D&D connection, so racism and other inequalities will as same things never change, regardless how noble our intentions are...

So I just don't trust WOTC and other corporations are noble while speaking about making people more equal through their products and services. I find it only a part of their commercial marketing to stay on top of current commercial trends where communicating WOKE and ESG can give you more profits.. If they are about profits, they should stay focused on good products and leave politics to political debates.

That's what I call bullshitting. Just few involvements into political debates connected with the WOTC and I just boycotted the whole 5e, even though I'm aware it's relatively good product. 

And I apologize if I unintentionally offended anybody. There was no such intention. I support all the good people regardless of how we're different individually.. I just don't trust CORPs being honest in their CSR programs.

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