Subj : Re: Retro Games To : MATT MUNSON From : phiax Date : Fri Oct 21 2022 07:54:59 MM> Retro gaming is an expensive hobby. Much worse than other hobbies. I MM> have to set a budget and figure out what I actually want. Yeah, for original hardware and software, yeah, it can be killer. But I do see other suggested emulated options, and that is totally viable. I got into retro gaming/collecting ahead of the curve and was never a huge spender [I am the type who would rather find the deal than spend bank on eBay], so much of my collection I got from people getting rid of what they thought was worthless, $1-$10 yard sale or thrift store finds, trades, etc. I have a decent NES collection [included a security modded "beater" NES, a complete in box Action Set, and around 60-70 games], a pretty solid Genesis collection [with SegaCD and 32x], a reasonable Gameboy collection [including a vintage clear-case DMG], a beautiful SNES with a few of my favorite games, a decent smattering of Gamecube, PS1, etc. Many of the things I got for cheap, I would never pay current prices for, to be honest. I do tend to play in emulation more than on hardware. With small kids, I don't like leaving it all set up for too long. Prior to kids, I would have one machine or another, but now, not so much. Perhaps when we redo the TV room downstairs, I have thing nicely set up in a cabinet and have a full on display case, but as of a move in 2020, they are mostly been in boxes, with me only taking things out occasionally and putting back. I do have several vintage PCs [late 90s/early 2000s] for DOS and era-appropriate gaming and tend to use those. The desktop tower and a big chunky laptop are my go-to machines. I have another I am fixing up and I have a recapped and somewhat restored Macintosh Classic I adore but rarely use. I have an iMac 3G DV in storage which is working ok, but needs a new hard drive, but don't have the time. Honestly, I have gotten rid of some nice machines in the past few years, because for PCs and Macs, part of my fun is fixing them. For emulation, I think the best thing to get down is the "feel". If emulating, invest in adapters for original controllers. I have a decent complement for Wii [mine is hacked and I do some emulation with that when I want a "sofa" experience] and USB ones for various computers. From there, you honestly have a slightly better experience with emulation rather than hardware, since less clutter and you can save states. With things like the PS1, you can have a cleaner upscale if you like. One of these days I will invest in a OSSC, but for now, I have a cheapy RBG/SCART to HDMI converter which is only decent [some latency, but not terrible, but much much better than most TVs with analogue signals], for when I hook things up, so emulation often wins out just for that. As for recommendations, collect what you most value. If it happens to be a particular set of games from your childhood, cool. If it is all games of X series, awesome. However, unless you are independently wealthy there is no chance, nor any compelling reason to go for complete collections of things like NES, SNES, etc. To get the rarer stuff, you are only fighting with obsessive collectors at this point. There is a middle ground, between emulation and hardware. You can get into the whole FPGA scene with a MiSTer. Sure, you are typically playing with ROMs, but you are dealing with cycle-accurate behavior on FPGA cores [which is effectively identical to the hardware represented], but with the benefit of new [not rotting/potentially failing 20-30 year old electronics] hardware, excellent video options, etc. Anyway... just thoughts. -ph --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Linux/64) * Origin: The Bottomless Abyss BBS * bbs.bottomlessabyss.net (21:1/172) .