Subj : Nodelist Development To : alterego From : Al Date : Mon Jun 01 2020 16:35:52 165 Hello alterego, Og>>> Infact.. the original nodelist *was* a bbs list. Al>> Bzzzt! Wrong. Al>> The nodelist has always contained info for mailer sessions. Most Al>> entries al> So the only point that breaks down for me, is why was the "MO" flag al> created, if the nodelist was never intended for human consumption as al> well? I could come up with a couple of reasons for you but off the top of my head I don't know. Your the FTSC guy.. not me, aren't we supposed to be asking you such questions! al> Sure, as technology as evolved, mailers no longer use POTS to al> communicate, but IP - so port definitions were created to faciliate al> that. I think its reasonable for the human element to evolve to al> include the port info as well. I'm going to ramble on a bit now. Feel free to move on at this point if you'd rather skip Al's musings. Let me start by saying I think it's a good idea to include BBS connect info in the nodelist. If there was a way to include it in the nodelist I would be first to update my own BBS info (if I had any) and those in my net. But I think that is problematical, let me explain why. The nodelist has been a problem since day one. A good number of people have worked like dogs to bring it to where it is today. BBS connection info was never a consideration and that is largely why it is not included today. In the heyday of BBSing the size of the nodelist was an issue. It took a long time to apply a diff and recompile the nodelist. The time it took to scrape the nodelist for the desired info was also an issue. The above is not an issue today but those issues have a lot to do with where we are today. The nodelist has evolved, the most recent evolution was the inclusion of protocol:port numbers. There have been other evolutions too but that will suffice for this example. I think the nodelist does a pretty good job of doing what it was intended to do. I think there is a good argument for adding BBS connect info to the nodelist but nodelist tools would need updating. I would not add my own BBS connect info today for fear of breaking my friends nodelist compiler. I just scrapped this out of the current (Fidonet) nodelist.. === Cut === o The FidoNet NodeList is compiled so that computer systems within FidoNet may communicate with each other. Use and intra-FidoNet distribution rights are granted to all FidoNet system operators for the purposes of communication within FidoNet or applying for a FidoNet node number. SEEN-BY: 1/100 2/100 101 106 107 108 111 114 115 116 118 1202 128 130 132 137 SEEN-BY: 2/138 140 141 145 147 150 151 159 160 161 162 163 167 3/100 4/100 .