Subj : soupgate and alternatives
To   : Avon
From : Oli
Date : Fri Jan 29 2021 12:49:06

Avon wrote (2021-01-29):

 Ol>> changed messageext from ".MSG" to ".msg" it didn't work as expected
 Ol>> anymore.

 Ol>> Now it's fixed and they should work independent from each other.

 A> Thanks for this explanation and some insights as to how that code works.

I found the specification for the "Simple Offline USENET Packet Format (SOUP) Version 1.2". For SOUP files it's always upper case: "Each of the filenames in a packet should be stored in upper case on those systems where case matters (e.g. Unix)". So I don't expect any further problems with filenames.

 Ol>> Soupgate is creating a real mess at re-importing and translating
 Ol>> MSGID/REPLYs. One problem is that even for local use reply linking
 Ol>> cannot work, when MSGID / Message-IDs aren't translated
 Ol>> transparently back and forth.

 A> I think there may be a setting in the ini to adjust some of this?

I don't see a setting that would help. This has to be changed in the code.

 Ol>> Btw, I don't think binkp.net is meant to be used for mail/news
 Ol>> gating and that fidonet.org would still be the better (only
 Ol>> correct?) option for the Message-ID domain.

 A> I'd only used is as I thought the original fidonet domain used that
 A> shipped with the initial files had been lost to a domain name squatter.
 A> It can be easily adjusted in the ini thankfully.

I think that was fidonet.net not .org and it is only relevant for DNS (binkp mailers calling each other).

From binkd's HISTORY file:
2011/08/17 12:02:59 1.0a-560 gul
Default root-domain fidonet.net changed to binkp.net

 A>>> One reason I like the combo is that they are two stand alone
 A>>> exec file that I can install, config and run. It doesn't
 A>>> require a huge overhead install something more complex..

 Ol>> That's what I liked with soupgate too ...

 A> Simple is good.

I remember that someone complained about hpt being too complex ... (it wasn't me, was it?).

 Ol>> .... but then it's maybe more work (for us) to get it in a good
 Ol>> state than learning to configure a complex monster like fidogate.

 A> I've not yet had time to rebuild the new code and test it but will look
 A> to do so today.

If you are lucky, soupgate will work as expected. I thought a bit more about soupgate and maybe it's still a good idea to keep it alive.

I also checked out Fidogate and instantly lost all motivation to learn it. Maybe I'll try another day.

 A> Fidogate (I think) needs to be on the same system as an NNTP server (not
 A> sure) and if so it will be a bit of work for me to setup as I am also
 A> wanting to look at migrating my NNTP setup over to the same system that
 A> will run the Fido hub... but one thing at a time :)

Isn't it possible to send it via rnews to an nntpd server on another machine?

https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/docs-2.6/rnews.html

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