Subj : Re: soupgate and alternatives
To   : Oli
From : Avon
Date : Fri Jan 29 2021 10:31:08

On 28 Jan 2021 at 02:42p, Oli pondered and said...
 
 Ol> changed messageext from ".MSG" to ".msg" it didn't work as expected
 Ol> anymore.
 Ol> 
 Ol> Now it's fixed and they should work independent from each other.

Thanks for this explanation and some insights as to how that code works.

 Ol> There are standards and best practices for a reason. It might work fine
 Ol> for you now, but in another scenario it might generate all kinds of
 Ol> weird side-effects and problems.

Fair enough.

 Ol> Like the Mystic tosser with all it's
 Ol> non-standard behavior worked okay, until it didn't (AFAIK the various
 Ol> bugs have been fixed).

I'm not going to get into the pros and cons of Mystic but agree each system
has it's advantages and disadvantages. Running all of fsxNet with Mystic HUBs
was fine but when some were not using the same tossing software it became
apparent there were differences in the way packets were being treated.

 Ol> Soupgate is creating a real mess at re-importing and translating
 Ol> MSGID/REPLYs. One problem is that even for local use reply linking
 Ol> cannot work, when MSGID / Message-IDs aren't translated transparently
 Ol> back and forth.
 
I think there may be a setting in the ini to adjust some of this?

 Ol> Btw, I don't think binkp.net is meant to be used for mail/news gating
 Ol> and that fidonet.org would still be the better (only correct?) option
 Ol> for the Message-ID domain.

I'd only used is as I thought the original fidonet domain used that shipped
with the initial files had been lost to a domain name squatter. It can be
easily adjusted in the ini thankfully.

 Ol>  A> One reason I like the combo is that they are two stand alone exec file
 Ol>  A> that I can install, config and run. It doesn't require a huge overhead
 Ol>  A> install something more complex..
 Ol> 
 Ol> That's what I liked with soupgate too ...

Simple is good.

 Ol>  A> But I agree fixing bugs and extending
 Ol>  A> features would be great. Just wish I had the coding skills to do it :(
 Ol> 
 Ol> .... but then it's maybe more work (for us) to get it in a good state
 Ol> than learning to configure a complex monster like fidogate.

I've not yet had time to rebuild the new code and test it but will look to do
so today. In terms of moving 3:770/1 over to HPT I was wanting to get the
gating software running first for Liunx but may well just fudge some shuffle
of packets between Linux and Windows to keep using the software I have
running under Windows for Soupgate and VSoup while a better more long term
solution for gating under Linux can be found.

Fidogate (I think) needs to be on the same system as an NNTP server (not
sure) and if so it will be a bit of work for me to setup as I am also wanting
to look at migrating my NNTP setup over to the same system that will run the
Fido hub... but one thing at a time :)

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