Subj : Re: the mac club To : paulie420 From : hollowone Date : Sat Jun 28 2025 13:42:10 pa> NVME SSD, so; they don't NEED to be upgraded... pa> pa> For ME, the base M4 Mac Mini will last 5 years... 16GB RAM is fine; and pa> if needed just spec more at purchase - and grab your 10year hardware and pa> just upgrade the Mini in 5 years.. That's the point. back in 2010-2013 changing slow HDD to SSD inside macbooks and adding RAM (often slower than what they offered, but less expensive) was a significant boost. Now the 1TB SSD + 36GB RAM Mac Book Pro with M4 Max costs reasonable and I personally don't see any need to upgrade it within its life cycle. so ideologically, of course it's a problem and I support the idea of having macs being more open platforms again.. but if they provide right hardware for the right price that can last years longer than regular PC I can skip that fight for a moment for more open software platform and them to finally learn how to support developers properly as they suck at that bigger time than any RAM upgrade considered here. -h1 .... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a mere copy. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2024/05/29 (Linux/64) * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150) .