Subj : Re: Intel: Once mighty, now falling? To : Nightfox From : StormTrooper Date : Wed May 07 2025 23:16:33 Ni> I worked at Intel from 2011 to the end of 2019, and while I was there, I Ni> started to hear about Intel's chip manufacturing struggling and falling Ni> behind around 2018-2019 or so. TSMC's chip manufacturing process had Ni> surpassed Intel's, allowing AMD and other chip makers to make smaller Ni> transistors for their chips, and Intel struggled with that. Although Ni> Intel has tended to manufacture its own chips, I've heard Intel has now Ni> outsourced some of their chips to TSMC to make use of their process Ni> technology. Yeah, I don't tend to remember the time frame but Intel being unable to fab the designs its been trying to roll out has been a thing for a while. After a while you'd have to think its going to impact R&D while you wait for production time on someone elses plant to make test versions of your new designs. Their performance generally hasn't been up to par for a while either, but I haven't tracked anything recently... ST --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64) * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108) .