Subj : Re: NetBSD 10
To   : apam
From : tenser
Date : Fri Apr 05 2024 14:57:39

On 05 Apr 2024 at 08:57a, apam pondered and said...
 
 ap> -=> On Fri Apr 5 01:51:00 2024, tenser wrote to apam <=-
 ap> 
 ap>  > As I recall, this is one of the areas where systemd
 ap>  > assumptions are starting to impact the BSD community;
 ap>  > GNOME 3 dependencies on systemd for management are the
 ap>  > sort of thing I'm talking about.  It's a shame.
 ap> 
 ap> I don't know that they were assumptions, but rather deliberate. While I
 ap> suspect impacting the BSD community was not on their radar, a lot of the
 ap> linux community didn't like systemd either - and what better way to
 ap> force your thing than make it required for the new shiny things.
 ap> 
 ap> I seem to remember mailing list posts with GNOME developers activley
 ap> refusing interoperability patches (i think the one I remember was in
 ap> regards to musl)..

I'm shocked. Shocked to discover that this sort of thing
goes on....

 ap> Yes, I'm a big fan, but unfortunatly don't have an nvidia card, i think
 ap> openindiana had i915 sort-of-working at one point, but seems the only
 ap> way to get a reliable desktop is with nvidia. I have an AMD radeon.
 ap> 
 ap> I'm back on debian too :( FreeBSD kept rebooting itself when using the
 ap> GPU. Oh well.

Huh.  I run pretty much all of my illumos stuff headless, or
with just a serial port for the console.  For Helios, we can
run the UART at 3MBAUD, which is fast enough for most things,
though once it's up I just login over the network.

Shame about the GPU thing, but it sort of reinforces my thesis:
the world assumes Linux.  :-(

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