Subj : Re: NetBSD 10 To : niter3 From : tenser Date : Thu Apr 04 2024 09:08:34 On 03 Apr 2024 at 12:47p, niter3 pondered and said... ni> te> Funny, most Linux distros kind of feel like a toy to me. ni> te> BSD feels more like "real" Unix, but maybe that's just ni> te> because it's closer to what I grew up with, so to speak. ni> ni> What makes it feel like a toy? It's hard to articulate, as it's more a sense of "feel" than anything else. But I often find that random things either don't work, or don't work as expected, when I put together a Linux instance. Things that _should_ be simple are over-complicated (like the boot loader, or systemd) or don't work (lookin' at you, AX.25 and NET/ROM, or a number of older network utilities like `talk`). A lot of things like traditional Unix stuff like man pages are incomplete (or even worse) references to other things. I find the graphics stuff over complex and ugly. Things like dbus tend to break all the time. Ugh. The old joke was BSD was what happens when Unix people port to the PC, and Linux is what happens when PC people try to build a Unix. It's not a terrible analogy. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .