Subj : Re: RIP Niklaus Wirth To : tenser From : hollowone Date : Fri Jan 19 2024 07:08:18 te> te> Yes. A lot of programmers seem to _really_ love complexity, te> and some I'm sad to say view their ability to handle complexity te> as a sign of superiority over those around them who, perhaps, te> can't keep quite as much in their heads at one time. It's not te> great. te> If one observes these things long enough then figures that something once simple becomes complex and then unnecessary complex, meaning bloated. Then the level of over-bloatness is so big that next gen of developers tweaks with syntax to achieve exactly the same thing just simpler and on the next gen platforms (HW/OS). Then previous generation sometimes discovers it and if they are progressive they simplify back what was discovered as new, adapting to new world... then all generations contribute to the continual bloating process.. and that's how we have cycles defined... Syntax, operativeness, tool sets, paradigms... all are applied to these and are subjects of decades long fashions... At the end the only thing that matters is the ability to simplify.. thanks to that APIs in the good old C frameworks I keep discovering today... are so much better than those from 20 years ago.. just because people learnt all that across different tools, platforms, languages and paradigms... and turned it back to a simple statement. -h1 .... Xerox Alto was the thing. Anything after we use is just a mere copy. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64) * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150) .