Subj : Re: RIP Niklaus Wirth To : Nightfox From : tenser Date : Thu Jan 11 2024 02:46:06 On 09 Jan 2024 at 05:22p, Nightfox pondered and said... Ni> Re: Re: RIP Niklaus Wirth Ni> By: tenser to Blue White on Wed Jan 10 2024 01:27 pm Ni> Ni> te> My sense is that Java programmers favor a style that is heavy on Ni> te> frameworks, design patterns, and abstraction, often to the point of Ni> te> excess. This yields all sorts of efficiency problems, among other th Ni> Ni> I haven't done much with Java (aside from some Android work), but I've Ni> seen this with programmers in some other languages too. Sometimes Ni> people seem to like to make a bunch of different classes to handle Ni> different parts of the behavior, and abstract things into the various Ni> classes and to interfaces, etc., and that at least makes it more Ni> difficult to learn the codebase for someone new. Sometimes, such Ni> designs seem overly complicated. Yes. A lot of programmers seem to _really_ love complexity, and some I'm sad to say view their ability to handle complexity as a sign of superiority over those around them who, perhaps, can't keep quite as much in their heads at one time. It's not great. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .