Subj : Re: RIP Niklaus Wirth To : tenser From : Dr. What Date : Mon Jan 08 2024 08:05:19 -=> tenser wrote to Dr. What <=- te> It was always easy to pick out the kids who'd been te> exposed to COBOL and then learned C; their C code te> tended to be overly verbose and not terribly idiomatic. te> It'd take them a good while to come up to speed. For me, the "tell" was no local variables and functions had a huge number of parameters and sub-functions. But I think that goes with the "not terribly idiomatic" category. Did you know that 'lint' crashes if you have too many local variables? I didn't until I had to run some C-COBOL through it. te> The ones who came from BASIC had it the worst, though. It depends, but you're mostly right. I learned BASIC on my own. But by the end of High School, I had already "discovered" Structured Programming (before I even knew who Edsger Dijkstra was), using GOSUB and minimizing GOTOs. Commodore BASIC didn't have WHILE/WEND loops until much later. .... Debrief: Wife listening while you talk in your sleep. ___ MultiMail/Linux v0.52 --- Mystic BBS/QWK v1.12 A47 2021/12/25 (Windows/32) * Origin: cold fusion - cfbbs.net - grand rapids, mi (21:1/616) .