Subj : Re: Honda To : StormTrooper From : SirRonmit Date : Wed Jun 07 2023 08:06:11 St> They've joined perennial losers Jaguar, RAM, LDV and Ssangyong at the I ordered my 2019 RAM from the website and had everything added to talk myself out of trading in my 2016 Durango R/T. I loved that ride! 2022 RAM was the last of the great rides. The 2023+ versions are well over $74K loaded and have less than 1/3 the options my ride has. Dealership keeps saying to come talk to them so they can get me into a new 2023 3.0 Turbo Diesel -- no thanks -- stop calling. I'm like, write me a check for $42-45K and I'll drop the truck off and go buy something else. :) -- I only traded the Durango in because you couldn't hall anything (couldn't even get a 4x4 sheet of plywood in the back due to the way the rear curves in on itself. The truck is overkill, but there is so much room and the two rear doors open 90 degrees - which allows things to be slide behind the front seats. I also have the RAMBOXes as well, which are fun for what they are. -- My old 2004 Malibu was the perfect highway ride - going from Omaha, NE to Chicago, IL on less than 3/4 tank of fuel (500 miles one way). Timothy Norris aka SirRonmit admin@f4fbbs.com bbs.f4fbbs.com:62323 .... Don't diet, download a virus to remove the FAT. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Windows/32) * Origin: Files 4 Fun BBS (21:2/120) .