Subj : Who is dumping fsx posts into dovenet?
To   : Oli
From : Al
Date : Tue Jan 10 2023 14:44:44

>> QWK networking works well.

> Does it?

Absolutely.

> I wonder why I'm seeing lots of mails without a REPLY kludge in FSX_NET.

I just took a quick look back in the FSX_NET area and every message I looked at had a REPLY kludge. It can happen though that messages posted with a QWK reader don't get a reply kludge because the QWK implementation doesn't know what the MSGID of the original message is. That's a short coming of the impementation.

That doesn't happen on Synchronet BBS. If you reply to a message with an offline QWK reader Synchronet will add a reply kludge.

Here's a look at the kludges I see here in a recent post in the dovenet general area on my Synchronet BBS, viewing the headers.

To               MRO
Subject          Re: Knowing Neighbors
Sender           Moondog
SenderNetAddr    VERT/CAVEBBS
SenderNetType    QWKnet
Message-ID       <63BD9801.80470.dove-gen@cavebbs.homeip.net>
In-Reply-To      <63BD3954.11056.dove-gen@bbses.info>
X-FTN-PID        Synchronet 3.20a-Linux master/dbc10c0f6 Jan  4 2023 GCC 12.2.0
X-FTN-CHRS       CP437 2
OtherHeader      WhenImported: 20230110120157-0800  41e0
OtherHeader      WhenExported: 20230110134626-0800  41e0
OtherHeader      ExportedFrom: VERT dove-gen 126797
SenderNetAddr    VERT/CAVEBBS
SenderNetType    QWKnet
when_written     63BDC21C 412C Tue Jan 10 11:53:00 2023 EST
when_imported    63BDDCB4 41E0 Tue Jan 10 13:46:28 2023 PST
type             0000h
version          0300h
attr             0000h ()
auxattr          00000000h ()
netattr          00000000h ()
header_offset    0AC020h
header_fields    14
header_length    461 (calc: 461)
number           1000
thread_id        964
thread_back      998
data_offset      0E3D00h
data_field[0]    TEXT_BODY, offset 0, length 1605
data_field[1]    TEXT_TAIL, offset 1605, length 73

> (But I guess you mean BBS to BBS QWK networking and not faulty QWK clients or
> horrible QWK gateways)

Yes, I was talking about QWK networking. There is horrible QWK gateways to stay away from.

>> QWK is not the the issue here, someone misconfigured something and crossed
>> up DOVE-Net and fsxNet got linked up somehow.

> But how does it happen? Did someone name the DOVE-Net Sysops conference
> fsx_gen on disk? Or is it related to the ingenious QWK Conference numbers?

I'm not sure how it happened. I suspect someone used area number 3002 when they meant 2002. Those area numbers are important. Area 2002 is just as unique and the area tag ASIAN_LINK, if you enter it wrong something wrong will happen.

I don't think we'd implement QWK the way it was implemted back in the late 80's or early 90's today.

In it's day QWK was ingenious. I suppose it could have been done differently but Synchronet implements QWK beautifully. It works well for any old QWK reader like SLMR or the like from the BBS and QWK networking works well between BBSs.

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