Subj : Re: 2017/2018 PC to modernize it. To : poindexter FORTRAN From : tenser Date : Wed Dec 14 2022 09:12:36 On 13 Dec 2022 at 06:47a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said... pF> pF> I think if I went retro, I'd get an old SUN box. pF> pF> es> We used Sun boxes at the government for a bit and I never really pF> es> understood why some people are interested. What would an old SUN box pF> es> for you? Serious question? pF> pF> Nostalgia. The hardware is beautiful to me, the SUN type 5 keyboard is pF> one of the best ever made, and my first *nix gig was supporting SUN pF> hardware in my server room. I had a Sparc II at my desk at the time pF> with a huge (at the time) 19" monitor. While Windows and Mac were pF> barely multitasking, Solaris was able to run most of my infrastructure pF> on a couple of boxes. Bah. Philistines. The Type-4 keyboard was where it was at. pF> es> It's like the nextcubes and stuff, they're so expensive, and I don't pF> es> even know what they would bring to the table. I would love to better pF> es> understand this. pF> pF> The NeXT (hope I got the capitalization right) had display postscript pF> when everyone else had jaggedy screen letters, keyboards and mice that pF> felt luxurious by comparison to the cheap PC keyboards of the time, and pF> tools to create apps quickly, if memory serves. That's all correct. The first web browser was written on the NeXT. It also had a pretty cool kernel architecture; it was basically Mach underneath, with 4BSD bolted on, and they got to the point where you could write kernel modules and drivers in Objective-C. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .