Subj : Re: Help me here .. I am confused ?
To   : esc
From : Adept
Date : Mon Dec 05 2022 17:33:04

 es> Hey, I apologize for being combative here. We've all got different
 es> experiences. *shrug*

Really, no offense taken, on my part. I was certainly expressing some frustration, but I appreciated that you did at least do an appeal to expertise, where you claimed to know more because of your travels.

And sorry for any shortness I had, or if I got too... spicy? in previous messages. I love a nice discussion, even when it's, "No, I totally disagree with your take on...", but, really, I like when it's friendly, here, and hopefully I'm a net positive.

And I do appreciate your response, here:

 es>  Ad> a, "you're stupid" kind of way. Which is more likely to make me think
 es>  Ad> that people aren't even considering my opinion, thus there's no reaso
 es>  Ad> for me to consider theirs.
 es> 
 es> Yeah, you're right, and I apologize for how I phrased it. Cheers.

....though I wouldn't say it's necessary; just trying to talk through how my response can be, whether fair or not.

Anyway! Back to the discussion.

 es> fairly commonplace the world over, but 'kebab' is not a German word and
 es> the spices used in the meat preparation are common to the Middle East.

Yeah, to be fair, I've mostly been saying "kebab" because it's almost always "Doner", here, but with an umlaut above an o instead of "o", and I'm presently unable to send an umlaut'd o through MagiTerm.

And I'm not really sure where Doner would be from, or even what it means. And "kebab" I tend to think of being, "meat on a stick", but in the served-on-a-stick sense, rather than the shaved-off-a-meat-hunk sense.

....and I think that's just wrong, but in the, "everyone uses a different definition than what I internalized" sense.

But it's doubtlessly the Doner twist that's more German.

On that note, one other weird aside here, is that, since I'm vegetarian but don't particularly like falafel, I don't have much in the way of options at most Doner Kebab places. But there's a vegetarian place that's within walking distance of me, which I'm delighted by, especially as the guy claims it's his own unique preparation.

As in, while I've been to at least one other vegetarian Doner place, he didn't borrow his version from other people, and was unaware of others doing it at all.

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