Subj : Re: Help me here .. I am confused ? To : Adept From : esc Date : Mon Dec 05 2022 03:13:11 Ad> If true, fine, but the claim I was making at that point was in part Ad> reinforced by someone born in Germany who just spent two weeks in Turkey. Hey, I apologize for being combative here. We've all got different experiences. *shrug* I mean, currywurst is German, but is clearly influenced my Indian cuisine. Similarly, El Pastor food in Mexico is their take on Shawarma. But yeah, kebabs in my experience have always been Middle Eastern. Interestingly enough there is a (likely thousands year old) discussion about whether certain regional deserts are from Turkey or from Greece. Baklava comes to mind specifically. Ad> But could you speak to what you think is the same? I know that kebab Ad> exists in lots of places, so if you've spent a lot of time trying a Ad> variety of dishes at German and Turkish kebab places, and found them to Ad> have the same menus, it'd be nice to hear more details on that Ad> experience. The only non-Iraqi street food I ever had in Iraq was corn on the cob, of all things. The same can be said for Syria. Turkey, on the other hand, had a much more worldly selection. That said, grilled meat is fairly commonplace the world over, but 'kebab' is not a German word and the spices used in the meat preparation are common to the Middle East. Ad> The whole, "You're clearly wrong" message just kind of irritates me, as Ad> it provides no data or reason for me to doubt my claim, and isn't Ad> presented in a, "hey, I disagree with your assessment" sort of way, just Ad> a, "you're stupid" kind of way. Which is more likely to make me think Ad> that people aren't even considering my opinion, thus there's no reason Ad> for me to consider theirs. Yeah, you're right, and I apologize for how I phrased it. Cheers. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64) * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173) .