Subj : Re: Help me here .. I am confused ?
To   : apam
From : Gamgee
Date : Sat Dec 03 2022 07:26:00

-=> apam wrote to Gamgee <=-

 >  Ad> Clearly it's still strongly influenced by immigrants from Turkey.
 >  Ad> Just that the exact version is as German as the fortune cookie is
 >  Ad> American.

 > I've seen Doener Kebab outside of Germany, and fortune cookies outside
 > of America.  See above re: wrong again.

 ap> So reading this thread, it seems what adept is saying is Germans
 ap> have a special kebab that they make which they call a Doener
 ap> Kebab. We have Doener kebabs in Australia, but I don't know if
 ap> they are the same as German ones, but we have a lot of german
 ap> immigrants too.

What she is calling a Doener kebab is mostly known here in America as a 
"gyro" or maybe a "schwarma".  More of what most would call a 
"sandwich" in general.  The actual definition of a kebab is just a
skewered/cooked chunk of meat (often w/ veggies) on a stick/rod.

 ap> Who invented the sandwich? and can people invent types of
 ap> sandwiches? I would say we invented the vegimite sandwich, but
 ap> did not invent sandwiches. I would say american's invented peanut
 ap> butter and jam (Sorry I just can't call it "jelly") sandwich (and
 ap> they can keep it).

In America, jelly is a fruity substance which has no "bits/chunks" in 
it, and jam has bits/chunks.  Jam is also known as "preserves".  Either 
jam or jelly is a great companion to peanut butter between bread.

 ap> A kebab is a lot like a sandwich, it's the fillings that make it
 ap> different.

I disagree with that.  The kebab is just the cooked chunk of meat.  
Putting that into a wrapper of some kind makes it no longer a kebab, but 
now a sandwich/gyro/wrap.  Of course I am speaking of American 
definitions of these words, and that difference in definitions may be a 
big part of the misunderstandings that are apparent in this thread.


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