Subj : Re: Help me here .. I am confused ?
To   : apam
From : boraxman
Date : Sat Dec 03 2022 00:13:38

 ap>  >  Ad> Clearly it's still strongly influenced by immigrants from Turkey.
 ap>  >  Ad> Just that the exact version is as German as the fortune cookie is
 ap>  >  Ad> American.
 ap>  > 
 ap>  > I've seen Doener Kebab outside of Germany, and fortune cookies outside
 ap>  > of America.  See above re: wrong again.
 ap> 
 ap> So reading this thread, it seems what adept is saying is Germans have a
 ap> special kebab that they make which they call a Doener Kebab. We have
 ap> Doener kebabs in Australia, but I don't know if they are the same as
 ap> German ones, but we have a lot of german immigrants too.
 ap> 

I've spent months in Europe, a notable portion of that in Germany where I have in-laws.  The Doner Kebabs in Europe are a little different to the Souvlakis you'll find in a Fish and Chip store in Australia, which aren't like Souvlakis in Greece.  Kebabs in Europe are largely the same, with minor variations depending on the region.  They generally come in two types A Durum Kebab and a Doner Kebab (I think).  One is in a pita pocket (the Doner Kebab) so a bit like a sandwich almost, the other in pita wrap.  The Sandwich Style aren't that common in Australia (I've barely seem them) but popular in Germany and Austria.  I think this is what Adept is referring to, that flat, pita-sandwich style presentation may be specific to Germany.  But as its a variant of a Turkish dish, and was created by Turks, I don't think that makes it German, anymore than a Greek putting prawns in a Souvlaki in Melbourne makes Souvlaki's "Australian".

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