Subj : Re: Help me here .. I am confused ?
To   : Adept
From : Gamgee
Date : Thu Dec 01 2022 20:52:00

-=> Adept wrote to boraxman <=-

 bo> The Kebab isn't German though.  It's not of German origin.  The only
 bo> reason its popular is because of the large number of migrants from
 bo> countries which have Kebabs.

 Ad> The potato isn't of German origin, either. And tomatoes aren't
 Ad> Italian.

The potato and the tomato are not a "dish".  They're just ingredients.

 Ad> And Doener Kebab, in Germany, is a bit of a mixture between
 Ad> what's common in Turkey and a gyro from Greece, and is something
 Ad> that you don't get elsewhere.

Wrong again.  Simply not true.

 Ad> Clearly it's still strongly influenced by immigrants from Turkey.
 Ad> Just that the exact version is as German as the fortune cookie is
 Ad> American.

I've seen Doener Kebab outside of Germany, and fortune cookies outside 
of America.  See above re: wrong again.

 Ad> Which has been my point from the beginning, as I was talking
 Ad> about General Tso's being an American dish, even though people
 Ad> get it at Chinese restaurants.

If you'll read the actual history of that dish, it was invented in 
Taiwan by a Chinese chef.  Yes, he supposedly made it for some visiting 
general from the US.  Still, the dish clearly belongs in the "Chinese 
food" genre, regardless of who first made it, or why.

That's the difference in the argument about Kebabs.  Perhaps there is a 
minor variation of that which is popular in Germany.  No argument.  
But... that variation still falls into the "Middle-Eastern food" genre, 
not the "German food" genre.  Not sure why you can't understand that.



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