Subj : Re: Getting new users To : boraxman From : Vk3jed Date : Fri Oct 14 2022 11:39:00 -=> On 10-11-22 23:26, boraxman wrote to Nightfox <=- bo> Completely agree. There are already mobile and web versions of chat bo> and messaging and forum and email services, so why reimplement it? bo> Trying to "modernise" the BBS would just be an exercise in reinventing bo> Matrix, Web Forums, email, XMPP or Signal from scratch. I partly agree. Sure, there's many messaging apps, too many one might argue. The biggest issue is they're generally walled gardens, requiring users to keep a multitude of them on their devices. And real time short messaging is well covered by these apps. As for web forums, that's a whole different kettle of fish. Web forums suffer from a "one size fits all" mentality, when it comes to the interface. The idea that _everyone_ wants to use a web based GUI interface that works in a particular way is rather absurd, really. Most web forums from here are very sluggish, because of the number of requests required to build a page (with ~200 mS RTT on each set of requests - most forums are on the other side of the planet, and physics kinda gets in the way). I have had better performance out of locally installed web forums, but the navigation still leaves a bit to be desired. One thing some modern BBSs (especially Synchronet) do well is diversity of access - web is there, as well as telnet, POP/IMAP, NNTP for messaging, with FTP also available for file transfer. And one can even go totally offline for messaging (as I am now). bo> I think it is more valuable for BBS's to exist as they used to be, to bo> serve as a working example of how things used to be, a different world. bo> It is like a heritage building. Heritage buildings are kept as they bo> are, because we want to still have the past with us. Actually they're not in many cases - the facade has to stay, but I have seen totally modern buildings behind the original facade, or even buildings where the heritage and modern are tastefully blended together. I'm not a fan of "this is what XXX is and we won't change" type of thinking. I am notorious for using software in ways the author never intended! :D .... You may start by impressing - _ME_ !! - Worf === MultiMail/Win v0.52 --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109) .