Subj : Re: Community
To   : Spectre
From : boraxman
Date : Wed Oct 05 2022 00:31:00

 Sp> I can't see anyone doing data harvesting from BBS' its just such a
 Sp> minority it'd have no value other than interest.  You'll always get some
 Sp> miscreants, doesn't to much matter what platform it is, its just a
 Sp> matter of dealing with them as they arise. If usenet was resurrectable
 Sp> it'd still be a popular platform. Like the BBS end of things its a mere
 Sp> shadow of itself and in continued decline. You're looking for other
 Sp> dinosaurs to join reserve without looking at the bigger picture, without
 Sp> "new blood" they'll die out. You'll eventually have to put up with a
 Sp> level of openess to stay alive.

There is nothing to gain from harvesting data, which is good.  I'm not sure I sympathise with wanting things to "survive".  Either it is useful, or it is not.  If it is not useful anymore, why should it survive?  I'm not sentimental about things in my past.  I really liked the old IBM PC's but it doesn't bother me that DOS didn't survive.  It didn't bother me when BBS's died out because the Internet at the time offered so much more.  I don't see a need to keep something alive for the sake of it being alive.

BUT what the Internet has become is something more awful than its heyday in the late 90's early 2000's and in an odd twist of fate, the BBS offers what we had lost.  Maybe the future is something "BBS like" but not a BBS.  Someone brought up public access Unix.

But "survival" is something people can destroy themselves trying to do.  You have to be clear WHAT it is you are trying to keep.  For me, it is privacy, self-hosting, social communication not sullied by advertisers and data harvesters and other bad actors and no dark patterns, so to speak.  A simple interface which is keyboard friendly is also a plus ;)

For my own private BBS, I would have happily ditched Mystic in a heartbeat, but to be honest, I did NOT find an alternative!  Citadel was the closest, but that hasn't been maintained much.

 Sp> Shrug, I know nothing about telegram. Until last week I'd never heard of
 Sp> it. However it already implies your dinosaur collection is already being
 Sp> diluted by other attractions.

Telegram was not really wanted anyway in the end.

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