Subj : Re: 3.5 weeks to being la To : poindexter FORTRAN From : Vk3jed Date : Fri Aug 12 2022 20:21:00 -=> On 08-11-22 07:54, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Capt Kirk <=- pF> I went to school and spent the next 10 years in San Francisco, and I pF> could have done it very nicely without a car. In SF you could get pF> anywhere you needed to go 24/7, they have a nice prime-time pF> metro/trolley system, a region-wide elevated train system, and a pF> traditional train route that runs down the peninsula into Silicon pF> Valley. SF would be an exception, also New Yourk City? I know both of those cities have a good train network, and SF has the trolley cars as well. I know people living in inner parts of Melbourne who lived without cars, because the tram network provided local transport needs for going out and shopping. Trains would get you to many of the major suburbs (and the tram network a whole bunch more), with regional trains to major towns and cities outside Melbourne. However, live in the middle or outer suburbs of Melbourne, and a car rapidly becomes a necessity. Here, it's a small city of just over 100k people. Most trips are within bicycle range, but the terrain makes electric assistance a better option, which will work for local trips. Melbourne can be reached by train in just under 2 hours, most other destinations require a car, but I don't need to leave town too frequently. pF> Drinking with friends usually involved picking one of the trolley lines pF> and visiting a couple of bars along the route. I, fortuitously, lived pF> at the end of one of the lines, right along the beach. Trolley cars/trams that run along the street tend to lead to long shopping strips, which are fairly accessible. .... Death is nature's way of saying it's too late to play GEEK. === MultiMail/Win v0.52 --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109) .