Subj : Re: 3.5 weeks to being la
To   : boraxman
From : Vk3jed
Date : Fri Aug 12 2022 19:26:00

-=> On 08-11-22 23:31, boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-

 bo> Indeed I have.  A new centre near where I live has a large carpark out
 bo> the front of the entrance, which you have to walk along the carpark to
 bo> get it. There really isn't any good way to get into it from the road.
 bo> It looks like a massive box in the middle of the carpark.  There really
 bo> isn't anywhere for people to congregate which isn't by cars.

Yep, that seems to be the norm for major shopping malls.

 bo> I compare this to the old Moonee Ponds Market, which fronted a street,
 bo> and the carpark was on the other side of the main road.  There were
 bo> more accessways to it.  The place wasn't an island in the middle of a
 bo> car park and it was integrated with the surrounding urban area.  The
 bo> new one near my place is in the middle of nowhere.  There is nothing
 bo> across the road, nothing nearby, detached from everything else.

Strip centres in general are better, some parking in the street, and the major
car parks tend to be behind the shops with either rear access or walk along the
street.  Pedestrians simply walk along the street (maybe after getting off
public transport) and into the shop of their choice.

 Vk> When we moved, I was working remotely anyway, so no big deal.
 Vk>

 bo> One design I liked, was having a town square which was pedestrian only.
 bo>  Shops and restaurants would front the square, and the roads may be
 bo> behind the shops. This created an enclosed space free of cars.

I have seen places like that, or if there is a road, it's only for emergency
and essential service vehicles, not general traffic.


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