Subj : Re: 3.5 weeks to being la To : Arelor From : Vk3jed Date : Wed Aug 10 2022 19:38:00 -=> On 08-09-22 18:44, Arelor wrote to Vk3jed <=- Ar> There is a big problem that Urban Administrators don't understand, and Ar> that is that when you take something away from the population, you need Ar> to provide them with an alternative. If you remove cars from a Ar> neighbourhood because you want it to be for pedestrians only, you need Ar> to supply them with new means to move. Otherwise you get aberrant Ar> behaviors, such as car traffic being banned in certain areas, and Ar> people having to walk from a faraway parking to their jobs through Ar> crime ridden areas. I think the issue is that car dependence is embedded at all levels - not just local streets, but also in terms of long commutes and a host of other things. For many shorter trips, bicycles are useful, ebikes even more so (even with the silly restrictions we have here). In short, there's no easy solutions, it's got to the point that it will involve massive social change, along with massive infrastructure changes. Ar> The war on cars is irrelevant, anyway. Soon, affordable energy will be Ar> a thing of the past and we will be back at using bulls and charts for Ar> moving from a village to the next XD Or an ebike :D I'm already planning on reducing my car dependence. Out here it's impractical to elimate that, but I can dramatically reduce car use from the current 150km/week or so to a much lower figure, without having to cut out any activities. Ar> I am very happy of being a rural redneck. I'm happy being in a middle of the road sized city. :) .... Which parts can be grouped? === MultiMail/Win v0.52 --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109) .