Subj : Re: 3.5 weeks to being la
To   : Arelor
From : Nightfox
Date : Sat Jul 16 2022 16:21:54

  Re: Re: 3.5 weeks to being la
  By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sat Jul 16 2022 02:52 pm

 Ar> Long story short: in Spain, the biggest source of employment are small to
 Ar> VERY small companies. Think of familiar business.

 Ar> The problem is that with the current regulations, and employee gets more
 Ar> rights than the employer actually has himself. If you have a small bar in
 Ar> a corner that you run with your wife, it kind of sucks to hire somebody
 Ar> who is gonna get more revenue than what your actual equivalent salary
 Ar> would be. 

Makes sense..  It is important to let businesses thrive, but I feel like employees need to have rights too.  It's important to find the right balance.

 Ar> Biggest issue right now is that throwing out a worker who is not doing a
 Ar> good job is getting so hard and expensive that it is often more
 Ar> economically efficient to keep him in. Basically, if a guy is greatly
 Ar> underperforming, you will either have to pay him a ton of money to leave
 Ar> of go to court and demonstrate he is a burden. This results in managers
 Ar> deciding not to fire dead weight - in fact I have seen small clinics reuse
 Ar> to sack employess involved in incidents with falsified documentation and
 Ar> dead people. How fucked up is that? 

So basically it's more convenient for them to protect employees who have done something wrong than to let them go..?

 Ar> ALso they made temporary contracting so messed up that you cannot really
 Ar> hire somebody for a seasonal activity (ie. serving beer in peak season)
 Ar> and then send him his merry way. As a result, the companies that can use
 Ar> subcontractors - you subcontract a firm to give you a waiter for three
 Ar> motnhs, but that waiter works for the subcontractor, so you are not
 Ar> placing anybody under a legal payroll. 

I actually wish they'd do something like that in the US. At least in the tech industry in the US, it has become common for companies to bring in contract workers who actually work for a subcontracting firm, for a limited-time work contract.  Many tech companies here, such as Intel, Microsoft, Google, etc. have many of these contract workers.  It seems increasingly rare (and difficult) to actually become a direct hire of these companies because there are so many of these contract jobs.  And these contract jobs may last anywhere from 3 months to 12 months or more, and you don't know if your contract will be renewed - so you may end up with short temporary employment and you might be looking for another job soon.  I've heard the reason companies do this is that they don't want to provide all the benefits they would normally provide to direct employees.

Nightfox
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