Subj : Re: 3.5 weeks to being la
To   : Nightfox
From : Arelor
Date : Sat Jul 16 2022 14:52:04

  Re: Re: 3.5 weeks to being la
  By: Nightfox to Arelor on Sat Jul 16 2022 11:50 am

 >   Re: Re: 3.5 weeks to being la
 >   By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sat Jul 16 2022 12:42 pm
 > 
 >  Ar> Well, I guess Spain would be one of those countries with great worker
 >  Ar> rights, and as a result, nobody has a job \o/ \o/
 > 
 > It probably depends on the country..  Can you explain?
 > 
 > Nightfox

Long story short: in Spain, the biggest source of employment are small to VERY small
companies. Think of familiar business.

The problem is that with the current regulations, and employee gets more rights than
the employer actually has himself. If you have a small bar in a corner that you run
with your wife, it kind of sucks to hire somebody who is gonna get more revenue than
what your actual equivalent salary would be.

Biggest issue right now is that throwing out a worker who is not doing a good job is
getting so hard and expensive that it is often more economically efficient to keep him
in. Basically, if a guy is greatly underperforming, you will either have to pay him a
ton of money to leave of go to court and demonstrate he is a burden. This results in
managers deciding not to fire dead weight - in fact I have seen small clinics reuse to
sack employess involved in incidents with falsified documentation and dead people. How
fucked up is that?

ALso they made temporary contracting so messed up that you cannot really hire somebody
for a seasonal activity (ie. serving beer in peak season) and then send him his merry
way. As a result, the companies that can use subcontractors - you subcontract a firm
to give you a waiter for three motnhs, but that waiter works for the subcontractor, so
you are not placing anybody under a legal payroll.

Most big companies don't give a damn and can absorb these issues. If they have to pay
extra social security per employee, they will charge their end customers or outsource
manpower from a foreign agency. If someboyd they hired does not work well they will
hire more people and put the useless employees somewhere they can do no harm. It is
the small business that can't afford to face these problems, and since they are the
biggest generators of employment, in Spain, employment suffers.

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