Subj : Re: Conduct
To   : boraxman
From : Avon
Date : Sun May 15 2022 12:26:23

On 14 May 2022 at 10:28p, boraxman pondered and said...
 
 bo>  Ni>  Av>> them, do not adhere to the values of fsxNet and are unwanted in
 bo>  Ni>  Av>> fsxNet. 
 bo>  Ni> 
 bo>  Ni>  bo> "Do not adhere to the values"/"Do not align to our values" is on
 bo>  Ni>  bo> phrases that sends chills down my spine. 
 bo>  Ni> 
 bo>  Ni> I appreciate that Avon is trying to keep things civil in this network
 bo>  Ni> Would you rather there be a hands-off attitude and have anyone say wh
 bo>  Ni> they want without pushback?

 bo> What I mean is that this phrase is used by companies and institutions to
 bo> fire/cancel/remove people because of their private views and morals. 
 bo> People have been dismissed for not subscribing to fringe ideas with this
 bo> phrase used as justification.
 bo> 
 bo> Zealots are using seemingly innocent justifications to act in an awful
 bo> manner.
 bo> 
 bo> I'm sure Avon is not using it in this manner, nevertheless seeing it
 bo> makes me wary.

Hi there :)

Thanks for your clarification etc. where I am coming from relates to this..

[snip]

== Goals ====================================================================

Develop and encourage international communications between 100 (or more)
geographically diverse bulletin board system operators (members)
and their users in order to:

- Support and create learning and experimental opportunities 
- Explore and develop new and interesting methods of online communication
- Foster international friendships without borders
- Raise awareness of BBS as a hobby and communications option for
  the 21st century

== Values ===================================================================

- Have fun!
- Keep it simple
- Be kind, respectful and helpful
- Reject disruptive conduct that willfully incites discord

== Housekeeping =============================================================

Members of fsxNet and their users to conduct themselves with the above goals
and values in mind. Failure to do so risks being de-listed and/or removed
by the Network Coordinator

[snip]

So my expectation (not unsurprisingly) is that folks operating on fsxNet have agreed to conduct themselves with the above goals and values in mind.. so when I wrote to a couple of members not adhering to them this is where I was coming from.

It is clear in fsxnet.txt that the risks of not doing so include de-listing etc. but that's not my preferred route to take, rather my hope is the community can self moderate (and does :)) and 99% of members active in the network are self aware enough to realize when they are straying way off (what I think are) pretty obvious behaviours / values. There is that 1-5% of the time where I feel I need to step in and say something, often someone else has beaten me to it. I'm grateful it's seen to be a community/team concern. 

I'm not in FTN networks to spend all my time moderating and/or pressing next to bypass stuff I don't want to read because it contains combative antisocial or unkind content that I didn't come here for. I think others here feel the same way :)

I don't profess to get to right all the time, nor that folks who have come and gone from fsxNet feel that I have acted fast enough or quick enough or seen the 'issue' as they have seen it etc. All I can do is my best and be mindful that we all see things differently and react in different ways etc.

I am super mindful that the joys of echomail mean you can infer a ton of emotion / tone / sentiment into something written by the original poster that is simply not there. But I have also seen deliberate trolling as well :(

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
 * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)

.