Subj : Re: SSH on BBSes To : Nightfox From : Spectre Date : Tue Apr 19 2022 10:27:00 Ar> generated by marketing rather than by actual product design. Apple Ar> customers have this idea that their products are so much easier to use Ar> than the competitor's but in this day and age any consumer-grade piece Ar>of electronics is a no-brainer to use. Ni> That's true. Several years ago, at work at the job I had at the time, I Ni> was working on making some updates to a Mac sample app that our team had Ni> at the time. I was using a MacBook for that at work, and I remember Ni> Apple's XCode occasionally crashing, and I was also using a Mac scripting Ni> program from Apple that would crash even more often. It was a bit Ni> frustrating trying to work with tools like that.. Hopefully they've Ni> gotten better. There was a time, Apple sold a complete package... owning its own hardware, OS and a lot of its own software. But you'd have to go back to the early 90's for the rest of this to be accurate. At this stage Apple was noted for producing remarkably bug free code and o/s, all the way to about MacOS8 not sure about 9, and OSX was the real start of the rot. Somewhere about there the Mac became an appliance in which the only interest was selling more and more numbers. The software development dropped off also and they started pushing finished items out the door rather than tested items. Thats not to say they didn't put out some buggy software and even push out the occasional hardware issue, but they were able to keep it a lot cleaner than anyone else. I don't believe you'll ever see a return to that Apple Inc, its chosen its path and its a long way down it now. Spec *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware] --- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval) * Origin: The future's uncertain, the end is always near. (21:3/101) .