Subj : Re: Windows vs Linux To : boraxman From : tenser Date : Thu Apr 21 2022 03:37:26 On 20 Apr 2022 at 07:33p, boraxman pondered and said... bo> The real value proposition with Linux, is configuration and the ability bo> to mould your computing environment as you wish it to be. Ease of use bo> is not one of them, and shouldn't be. This is just wrong. The value of Linux is that it's a highly configurable kernel that can run just about everywhere and drive just about any hardware you may care to throw at it. It's used everywhere from the world's fastest supercomputers to cell phones and thermostats. It presents a highly capable kernel interface that provides useful services to user-space programs; it can be parameterized with a number of filesystems, schedulers, memory management policies, etc. In other words, it is a flexible toolkit for building useful things. People lose sight of the idea that computers are tools. For most people that means using them to do useful work. When those tools are overly complex, users are inhibited from doing what they really want with the computer. Scientists working on climate models aren't dumb; they just aren't interested in the minutia of futzing with the computer. They'd rather just get their HPC jobs running. And most of them could care less about window managers and shells and garbage like that; they want to visualize the results and not sweat the small stuff. Those use cases are important, and claiming that efforts to make systems more user-friendly are "dumbing down" computing are misguided at best and frankly facile and reek of elitist snobbery. bo> Efforts to take Linux mainstream are misguided. Ferrari sells cars bo> precisely because they DON'T compete with Toyota, Nissan and Mazda. Ferrari makes money on the margins; the others make it on volume. The nifty thing about Linux is that it does both, though it's imperfect. bo> They understand their market. Linux devs seem to not understand their bo> market. They seem to think it more important that "mom" uses it, than bo> those that actually want the freedom and technical capabilities it bo> provides. Mom's have been using Linux on cell phones for a decade perfectly capably, similarly with kids using Chromebooks and people who just want to set the temperature in their home or watch a movie on an airplane. Linux developers understand this very well. They also understand that Linux actually runs on a small fraction of the overall computer and that almost no one has the "freedom" to actually see into the rest. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .