Subj : Re: to mask or not to mask, again To : Jeff From : Paradigms Shifting Date : Tue Apr 19 2022 12:02:01 On 06 Apr 2021 at 09:11a, Jeff pondered and said... Je> On 06 Apr 2021, Paradigms Shifting said the following... Je> Je> PS> On 01 Apr 2021 at 10:27a, Jeff pondered and said... Je> PS> Je> PS> Je> On 31 Mar 2021, Ogg said the following... Je> PS> Je> Og> Og>> The biz had no right to "not" allow her in, if she wa Je> PS> Je> Og> Og>> a patron to conduct business. Je> PS> Je> Og> Je> PS> Je> Og> J> And yet, "No shoes, no shirt, no service." Je> PS> Je> Og> Je> PS> Je> Og> Good observation. You would think that the biz owner can't Je> PS> Je> Og> refuse service to people under those grounds either. But I Je> PS> Je> Og> think there are some laws that govern decency that a biz ow Je> PS> Je> Og> can fall back on. Je> PS> Je> Je> PS> Je> Either decency or hygiene. I would think that wearing/not wearin Je> PS> Je> would fall under hygiene. Je> PS> Je> PS> Not necessarily. The science has been clear for years that not only a Je> PS> masks completely ineffective in preventing the spread of disease, but Je> PS> also that long term mask usage can be harmful in a variety of ways. I Je> PS> is not about safety, it is about control. Je> Je> Oh, really? Has anyone told ER staff about this? Prior to 2020, it was common "science" that both OR and ER staff would wear masks to prevent spit, etc from getting into the wounds of patents. They also would not wear masks consistently for the entire work shift. They would take breaks. I would however like to encourage people to neither believe nor disbelieve anything I say about it. Go look up the peer reviewed studies about long term mask use and how the bacteria collects in the masks, as well as what it does to oxygen levels. Go check out OSHA certified oxygen measuring devices, and the levels of low oxygen and increased CO2 that the device itself considers as dangerous. Thats really all I can suggest for anyone on any topic. To look at everything, never cherrypick the data and never just blindly believe or disbelieve anyone, whether it is a government official, someone on TV, or even a friend, relative or some rando on the internet. Always use the scientific method, compare all sides and come to your own conclusions and decide what is best for you. I think thats reasonable. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .