Subj : Re: SSH on BBSes To : Nightfox From : boraxman Date : Mon Apr 18 2022 11:52:20 Ni> I don't think people should have to know how to program in order to use a Ni> computer, but it's good to know the basic concepts about what files & Ni> directories are, how to run programs, etc.. IMO, knowing how to program Ni> vs. using a computer is like having mechanic skills vs. just knowing how Ni> to drive a car. You don't have to be a mechanic to drive a car - and I Ni> don't think a computer user would necessarily have to know how to write Ni> software. But the more you know, more power to you. Computer operating Ni> systems these days at least have some kind of scripting language - Linux Ni> and Mac OS let you write Bash scripts, at least; Windows has its batch Ni> language and now PowerShell (starting a few versions back). Ni> I typically see people at work doing calculations, at their desk, in front of their computer, using a desk calculator. Not simple calculations either, but calculations such as ((78*12)+(78*3)+12)/(6500+5000+20)*100 where it is best typed in as an algebraic expression. People don't even know how to do that on their computer. A basic program to perform a common reconciliation would help, someone did an excel spreadsheet (though convoluted). People don't realise that putting data in a document, printing it, signing it, then storing it as a scanned PDF image means its not searchable or electronically compilable. So people quite literally will navigate through 90 specifications, each time opening the PDF, waiting for the cloud service to deliver the document, then type in the number or details they need into a spreadsheet, to get a list of products. One could go on, but you get the idea. This is a multinational company too, not some 2 person SOHO. At least the IT people could create workflows, and train people how to do their job, manage and use their data, but not even that. Hence the sorry state. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .