Subj : Re: SSH on BBSes
To   : echicken
From : Arelor
Date : Wed Apr 06 2022 06:25:34

  Re: Re: SSH on BBSes
  By: echicken to boraxman on Mon Apr 04 2022 01:41 pm

 >  bo> That is not to say a sysop cannot choose to enable web access, thereby
 >  bo> making the discussion world visible, but they have an obligation to use
 >  bo> to make it clear to users from the start, that this is what they are
 >  bo> doing.
 > 
 > They have no such obligation. That's in your head. It's a *good* idea and it
 > would be *very nice* if they informed their users, but as far as I know they
 > are not required to do so.

Honestly, as far as I am aware most BBS platforms are operating above the law.

I have not been offered a ToS document to read when signing up. The direct
implication is I have not formally agreed to lots of things which are necessary
to the legal functioning of a BBS. Among these things is the express permission
to the BBS operator to:

1) Store copyrighted material for an undefined length of time.
2) Share the copyrighted material with third parties (other BBS platforms)
3) Keep an archive of Personal Identifying information (this is important
because at no time any ToS made clear which information is being collected and
for which purpose).

There is also no formal Access-Rectification-Cancellation-Forgetness guide for
end users (which makes it illegal for you to take Spanish callers).

The argument that BBS are not business and therefore are above data protection
regulations only applies in a limited number of jurisdictions.

The argument that a lot of these permissions are implied is only going to fly
if you can prove all the users who sign up know these conditions. I only need
to point a finger at somebody complaining that the conditions were not clear
(boraxman) to unbuild the argument.

Also afaik there are no means to prevent or monitor access by minors.

Therefore BBS are implicitly illegal as currently administrated and therefore
arguing that you are not warning your users that they stuff is getting
published via http because you have no legal obligation is a bit wtf.
Seriously, the reason why you do is because you don't give a damn about the
law. Otherwise you would not be running a BBS :-)


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