Subj : Re: Does Usenet still have value?
To   : Arelor
From : JoE DooM
Date : Mon Feb 14 2022 10:19:20

 > I think the phone companies are on board with the phone spamming
 > schemes.
 > I don't think phone spamming can render profits enough for the spammer
 > unless
 > they are getting a very cheap phone contract which allows them to make
 > so many
 > calls. That requires the collaboration of some phone provider that
 > knows what is going on.

Phone calls have been VoIP for over a decade in most countries. The
exceptions might be rural areas where the internet is bad.

But phone spammers have got several ways of getting free phone calls
(even international ones). The most popular I'm guessing is hacking VoIP
servers with default passwords.

The phone spammers probably collaborate with unscrupulous companies who
manage the VoIP access for them, but in most countries those are probably
not "phone providers" or telcos in the traditional sense.

It's quite a different landscape now with digital phones and digital
networks. It's been quite a boon for spammers and scammers.

 > It sucks because I have heard, more than once, of a doctor having to
 > phone a
 > patient from our clinic in order to tell her something urgent, and
 > never having
 > the call received because the patient didn't recognize the phone
 > number and
 > thought it was just another mexican trying to sell her a new TV set.

Yikes, here in New Zealand, we have voice mail where callers can leave a
message if the phone isn't answered. They should ask about that. I'm sure
that's available in other countries too. 


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