Subj : Re: Computer operating system of choice? To : boraxman From : tenser Date : Thu Feb 10 2022 02:51:39 On 09 Feb 2022 at 10:11a, boraxman pondered and said... bo> For example, I can choose my graphical environment of choice, configure bo> daemons as I see fit, choose to use the CLI over the GUI, or not use a bo> GUI at all. FVWM is still highly configurable and I can change aspects bo> of the startup, and the kernel if need be. If that's what you're into, go for it. I used to be very into configuring my environment, having for instance, lengthly X11 startup scripts and resource files, elaborate shell configuration, etc. Now, I mostly don't want to have to care: the interesting thing for me is what I get to do _with_ the computer, not what I do _to_ the computer. bo> We never really did have control at the CPU level. What has changed is bo> that where we used to be able to program the CPU at a fundamental level, bo> we are now dealing with an abstraction. The machine may be doing things bo> we don't realise it is doing. If by, "we never really did have control at the CPU level" you mean that you were constrained by the ISA, then I guess that's true, though FPGAs have been available for a long while now. Most machines you've used have probably been microcoded as long as you've used them. bo> The external appearance is the same, but what is happening "under the bo> surface" as increased. Indeed it has. So much so that the "operating system" is actually in charge of a pretty constrained slice of the machine. Timothy Roscoe's OSDI'21 keynote nicely illustrated this very nicely. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .