Subj : Notice that... To : Atreyu From : Oli Date : Tue Feb 08 2022 16:31:46 Atreyu wrote (2022-02-08): A> On 08 Feb 22 13:24:10, Oli said the following to Atreyu: O>> How did it come that a new ZC was elected? O>> Who did decide which sysops (nodes?) were eligible to vote? O>> How long is your term? O>> Who decides when the next election will be? A> Janis had issues with her system and family/health, and stepped down. She A> called for an election immediately to find her replacement. Initially it A> was myself, Dallas Hinton and lowercase-Mark Lewis that were nominated by A> others but Mark chose not to accept. Janis appointed Phil Kimble as the A> bean-counter and all Z1 Sysops were eligible to vote by sending him A> direct Netmail with their choice of vote along with an arbitrary codeword A> for verification. [...] A> Z1 Sysops determine whether or not I'm doing a good job, they determine A> the length of my stay and determine whenever the next election will be. But how does this decision get made? Will there be an election when one node asks for it? Is there a vote for if and when the next election will be? According to Policy 4 the ZC is selected by the absolute majority of RCs. What if there is no absolute majority for a new ZC? What if the ZC is not interested in the votes by all sysops anymore, when the results don't please him (reminds me of Ward). What if a ZC would have been elected by the majority of RCs, but not by the majority of sysops? (I guess the Policy 4 was intentionally written in way to give the impression of democracy, but does its best to make it a pseudo democracy.) So when you are having elections that don't follow the rules of Policy 4, does it mean Policy 4 is obsolete? Geographical regions are done? ZCs can be replaced by a bot under collaborative administration? Or is the only important outcome, that another guy can put on a *C hat? Maybe someone has a better explanation why certain people who have no problems insulting others while boasting about their own superiority becoming ZCs. --- * Origin: Birds aren't real (21:3/102) .