Subj : Re: Computer operating system of choice? To : boraxman From : tenser Date : Wed Feb 09 2022 03:11:51 On 08 Feb 2022 at 02:01a, boraxman pondered and said... bo> Maybe, but then I think that Linux wouldn't be Linux if it became bo> Windows/Mac OS. I used to think it was important that Linux become more bo> appealing, but not anymore. I'd rather keep it as a 'hobby OS'. That bo> is its distinction, that you make the system your own, rather than bo> having it controlled by a central power. For those who wants that bo> polished unified, I'm happy for them to choose MacOS instead. Even if this were the case, which as others have pointed out it is not, with any modern system (particularly the x86 types) Linux really only gives you the illusion that you're in control of the system. There is so much stuff that happens even before the x86 cores come out of reset, mostly using closed-source binary blobs that you have no control over whatsoever, that it's mind-boggling. And the x86 cores themselves run many billions of instructions of firmware code that, again, most users have no control over (and has seriously dubious provenance) before the boatloader even starts. Everything from power sequencing to DRAM training is under the control of some chunk of software that comes from somewhere. Then once the system is running you still have the EC, maybe a BMC, plus SMM, ACPI flows, TrustZone on ARM, etc. Not to mention all the little processor cores running on various peripherals using their own firmware. If one were to count up the total number of CPUs in a single modern system, even treating multicore CPUs as a single unit, it would easily sum into the double or triple digits. Linux (or, really, any OS) runs on a tiny fraction of those with absolutely no insight into what most of them are doing, or even what the cores it "runs" are fully doing. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .