Subj : Re: I dislike their sluggishness and..
To   : Ogg
From : Vk3jed
Date : Mon Jan 31 2022 18:47:00

-=> On 01-31-22 00:39, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-

 Og> You can't really break in when the other party is transmitting.
 Og> That other party won't hear your break-in while they are still
 Og> jabbering on.

True, but that's a minority of situations, most of the time, waiting is
perfectly normal.

 Og> Unless your RF rig is just akin to a public radio talk-show
 Og> (transmit only), I think the delays in ham are more salient
 Og> than a few ms on a website.  ;)


 V> not click the link, message comes up in 10 seconds (maybe).
 V> ;)

 Og> When you press the button to transmit your info/question/
 Og> request, the response is far longer than a few ms when clicking
 Og> a link. :D

 Og> I just find it amusing that a bit of lag in forums/websites is
 Og> operational degrading factor for you, but the ham-talk delays
 Og> don't even register.   ;)

Very different.  On radio, the data is a voice stream that's being decoded in
real time.  Mind you, I do find verbal instructions can be annoying, or video
instructions.  It all depends on the degree of interactivity required.

 Og> Perhaps the difference has something to do with your eyes. On
 Og> the computer, the delay is frustrating because you are engaged
 Og> in expecting a visual response and not getting the "instant"
 Og> response following a click.  Whereas, on radio, after you
 Og> transmit, you can simply gaze into the distance knowing that
 Og> you are not going to expect a visual response from your action
 Og> on the radio. (?)

Also, message reading is a very different process.  One is not decoding a
stream of information.  One is initiating an action, and those 10 seconds are a
time when there is no information to decode.  At my reading speeds, that's the
equivalent to a huge chunk of text that's just spent waiting.  Very short
messages (like a sentance) I can take in very quickly (like a fraction of a
second).

The effect on message reading is dramatic - between 2 and 10 times reduction of
throughput (number of messages).


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