Subj : Re: Vibes To : boraxman From : Vk3jed Date : Thu Jan 27 2022 10:11:00 -=> On 01-26-22 13:29, boraxman wrote to tenser <=- bo> I was thinking in terms of making new clients. I utterly hate web bo> apps, and despite their ease of use, I'd rather go without as a matter bo> of principle. I hate a lot of web apps. They work, but there's always something a little "clunky" about using them, whether that be navigation or some other aspect. Even more so for apps that require notifications. Web notifications seem a bit less flexible than app specific ones. And of course, a modern web browser is a very heavyweight client, and I often find web performance is sluggish. While they look similar, I find using the dedicated Element client for Matrix much faster and smoother in general than the web based Element. And some web interfaces are getting unusable *cough* Facebook *cough*, because they're too bloated and sluggish. ;) bo> Of course, its not as direct as it was. But it is comparatively more bo> so than using centralised Silicon Valley services, and it does make a bo> difference. If Twitter bans you, you're disconnected. You can leave bo> your ISP, move to another, and keep the same connectivity. Most ISP's bo> in Australia are "hands off". We seem to have more flexibility in .au than most parts of the world, thanks to NBN being the primary means of physical access, and the ability to choose what ISP to use over NBN. bo> I dislike intensely the growing notion that bo> Facebook/Instragram/Twitter/WhatsApp *IS* the Internet. No argument from me there. Internet for me is the global IP connectivity - there's really two Internets for many of us, the IPv4 (legacy) and IPv6 (new) Internet, but modern OSs with a dual stack setup make them appear as one to the end user. .... I don't have any solution, but I certainly admire the problem. === MultiMail/Win v0.52 --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (21:1/109) .