Subj : Re: Vibes
To   : tenser
From : boraxman
Date : Wed Jan 26 2022 13:29:19

 te> True, though I would perhaps separate the ability to run well on
 te> low-end hardware from how easy something is to set up and configure.
 te> Mystic may well run on something as anemic as a Raspberry Pi 1, but
 te> you've already got Linux on that machine and it has essentially all
 te> of the same properties you listed.  Similarly, a Matrix server may
 te> run on low-end hardware acceptably well, even if it is admittedly
 te> harder to configure. Something like Discourse seems is really very
 te> nice, but requires rather a lot of work and may require a beefier
 te> host system.

I'm getting ahead of myself and thinking of a "solution in a box" that people could use.  Its just now ideas I like, but you could sell a consumer product, which is a box you plug into a router via a network cable, and you have your own social space set up.  A raspberry pi in a case with an SD card with Raspbian preloaded and configured.  Simple web interface to configure some details, and you're good to go.

 te> Funny, I actually see this as being a rather high barrier.  Web
 te> browsers are ubiquitous; SSH clients less so, and telnet is fading
 te> into ever-greater obscurity.

I was thinking in terms of making new clients.  I utterly hate web apps, and despite their ease of use, I'd rather go without as a matter of principle.

The ubiquity of web apps has actually meant that a few players now dominate the web and can shape it because there is only, what Chrome and Mozilla as browser engines now?

 te> This I somewhat disagree with: you have your ISP connection, rely
 te> on third-party DNS servers, etc.  This was true in the dialup days
 te> as well, except then the third party was the telephone utility.
 te> 
 te> Again, thanks for the interesting perspective.
 te> 

Of course, its not as direct as it was.  But it is comparatively more so than using centralised Silicon Valley services, and it does make a difference.  If Twitter bans you, you're disconnected.  You can leave your ISP, move to another, and keep the same connectivity.  Most ISP's in Australia are "hands off".

I dislike intensely the growing notion that Facebook/Instragram/Twitter/WhatsApp *IS* the Internet.

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