Subj : Re: MakeNL v3.4.1 Release To : Kees van Eeten From : Ward Dossche Date : Fri Jul 27 2018 01:25:03 Kees, Kv>WD> So far I haven't heard a single good argument to have this parameter Kv>WD> activated ... Kv> May I try to make a start. To me you have always been the voice of reason... Kv> Recently there was a little dog fight about a Kv> mail that was sent with the direct/crash bit set. The sender claimed the Kv> he sent the message, the reiceiver said it was not received. I'm unaware other that the very recent misbehaviour (again) by Roy. Kv> The node that flies the Pvt flag is just a IP only node, and the Pvt Kv> flag apparaently complicates free exchange of messages. That can be solved with the INA/IBN parameters. Kv> There are some Hubs in the nodelist that cannot fly the Hub tag because Kv> they are IP only. The automatic hubrouting for that segment now has to Kv> be maintained manually. I provide hub-functions, yet I don't fly the "Hub" keyword. Kv> There are a number of IP-only hosts that now have weird phonenumbers in Kv> the phone field, as replacing those numbers with -Unpublised- will now Kv> require the Pvt tag. Kv> If you see no need for the allowunpub option, then can we agree that Kv> normal IP-only nodes use an all zero's entry for the phone number. The only reason why some of these entries carry zeroes is because they were initially sneaked-in behind my back and I didn't read the nodelist like a newspaper. Had I noticed earlier, it would have been stopped in its tracks immediately. The only reason why they're still there is because I don't want to inconvenience a sufficiently large number of people. My take on this is that the problem for which the solution was created, in fact did not exist. Exactly the same as the IPv6-discussion ... the problem does not exist there either at this moment. And now because "AllowUnpub" is there, a problem needs to ne defined so that it can be deployed ... that, for the moment, still is my perception. Other than that, it's going to take another 3-4 months to wake-up ZC4 again. Take care, \%/@rd --- D'Bridge 3.98 * Origin: Many Glacier / Protect - Preserve - Conserve (2:292/854) .