Subj : Lies, damned lies and statistics To : Ward Dossche From : Kees van Eeten Date : Fri Jul 27 2018 01:25:03 Hello Ward! 16 Jan 13 00:53, you wrote to Janis Kracht: JK>> Z4C sends an updated segment each week or at the least he has in the JK>> last several weeks. FYI, He connects here every hour. WD> The segments Manuel's system sends-out are week-by-week the same and are WD> mailed by auto-pilot. Other than the CRC in the header there is not a WD> single change since May 22nd 2012 which is the oldest segment of his I WD> have on file. Can we be realistic about this and look at the facts. There is a system in Z4 that produces a new weekly zone segment, otherwise the topline with the CRC would not be adapted. We also assume that the zone is not very active. The fact that a Zone hase no changes since May 2012 is not necessarily an an indication that it is not maintained. I am quite shure, dat de region28 segment would not have had any changes over the same period, if people had not been playing with TAGs. Zone4 and Region28 do not differ that much in size. It just shows its, presence a bit, more, but that could be a matter of language. WD> There's nothing in it worthy of the word "updated". WD> He himself is out of reach. He hasn't written anything since Nov.15 2012. ??? It's their summer time, I was out of reach for 10 weeks last year. WD> Let's please stop this game and hope the ex-Z4C can figure something WD> out. I hope you both can figure something out, that circumvents your controversity. Maybe a term for reaction from Z4 after which the zone will be declared extinct. WD> If not then there are only 2 solutions: either Z4 finds a new ZC which WD> I WD> think is highly unlikely or we accept that the zone has expired and WD> accomodate whomever can be salvaged where-ever he'd like. All this above takes far to long for the sysops of Fidonet to wait for the going live of new option enabled by the current makenl. Are you and Janis prepared to use similar tools as Scott is using to indulge the treacle speed of the other zones. That is, move on and provide Z4 with opdates, that will not crash their system. It is not my place to require this from you, but I can always ask. Kees --- FPD v2.9.040207 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5 * Origin: My views are moderated by a virtual Penguin (2:280/5003.4) .