Subj : Re: Anti-Virus Suggestion To : Daryl Stout From : Doug Cooper Date : Tue Jul 28 2020 02:23:26 DS> You can drink an extra cup for me. I never acquired a taste for it, but DS> am currently drinking diet green tea citrus...over a half gallon a day. DS> Tea is a diuretic, but better for me than carbonated beverasges. I love tea! My favorite is PG Tips. I do like darker coffees / teas though. But my parents were raised in New York and thats what they drank. I got used to putting too much cream and sugar in either; i'm down to cream. I can't do diuretic's, as I've had past kidney failure. Oddly, the doctors said coffee was fine while within the hospital, but not tea. I can feel the difference too, as the caffine does not impact me with coffee, but amps up my heart rate with tea. But I love how tea stays hotter then coffee, even if a coffee press is used. Wierd. DS> That was the first one I used. DS> DS> DC> Nortons came free with my laptop and I sware it won't uninstall. It DS> DC> somehow knows I've done so, and has extensions within chrome and who DS> DC> knows where else to send "reminders" that my PC isn't "protected," ev DS> DC> when Windows 10 has built in virus and malware support (sigh ..) I DS> DC> remember trying IO bit and liked it, but had since reinstalled window DS> DS> There were a lot of false positives with Norton's. And, most anti-virus DS> programs throw a fit if they detect another anti-virus deal on the DS> system. The only one I've seen that does not throw a fit is the Sophos DS> Anti-Virus software. DS> I had been away from windows for a good part of 7 years while running my business. I was able to use my iphone for all business functions. What I'm not liking about windows 10 is it's apparent attempt to transition to more of a google chrome environment. I don't like the "Ap" features, nor the abandonment of 16bit applications, nor the punisment to 8gb of memory if the 32 bit version of 10 is used. I always find it odd that either the softare is ahead of the hardware or visa versa. I think ensuring downward compatibility is important, if for anything nostalgia. But the push for cloud computing I reject. I'd rather have my stuff on my system and not tied to a paid format. I remember being able to load multiple malware programs, each more effective with particular types, then others. In addition, a free standing virus program. I uninstalled ALL anti virus and have been using whats built in to windows 10 now, which works well. I have found that one program will state all is good, the other will find 10 errors somewhere and correct, causing the other to freak out. Without knowing enough about the inner workings of said programs, I, for the moment, have given up on all of them. DS> I had to get rid of Firefox. Something this last Windows 10 update DS> did, Firefox would never load after a reboot. Plus, it kept crashing DS> when I was on Facebook. And, I surely don't want to use Microsoft Edge. DS> Re install it. It works just fine. Maybe you had an older version. I like firefox, it has an incredible java script instruction guide. So I keep it around for that purpose if for anything else. It's also as compatible with web pages as chrome with what appears to be less invasive notifications and snooping. Tor is my goto, to avoid more tracking and the such, but it's slower. Edge is horrible, as is the built in wanna be version of outlook. It's so bad, most attachments aren't even accessible. I'm slightly disappointed within Win 10, but ... its the operating system I know. I use powershell more often then windows anyway. But, I'm planning on connecting my pi4's (3 of them) and learning linux for the first time, here in a few weeks (which I've been saying since March, but ... life gets in the way). My kids are already ahead of me on the PI's. Smh. -dc --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32) * Origin: The Underground [@] theunderground.us:10023 <-port (1:227/702) .